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		<title>By: Kees Boer</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/definition-of-extreme-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-36126</link>
		<dc:creator>Kees Boer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, that would save a lot of the problems in desperate poverty. 

Let me give an example of Bolivia, because that&#039;s where I lived for altogether 7 months. Bolivia is the poorest country in South America. I worked there in very poor neighborhoods. A lot of the problem of the poverty there is spiritually based. It&#039;s not physical. Yes, there is obvious physical poverty there and it should be met.  But the physical poverty issues like a lack of water, a lack of food, a lack of education, etc.... are symptoms of underlying spiritual problems. 

Let me give an example of what happens all the time over there. A mother has to work 12-14 hours/day for around $2/day. She has a little girl that she has to leave home in her shack. This girl is there with a little beat up television and in the area there are many gangs. She never hears her mother tell her that she is loved. For all intents and purposes, she is being raised by the television, which is like American television, i.e. most of it pretty much a bunch of garbage. When she is 14 years old, she meets some boy, who tells her that he loves her. These words become very powerful and a year later, she is pregnant and the boy has run away to somewhere else. 

Thus she gives birth to a little child and now she has to work 14 hours/day and the cycle started again. 

Now, if you were to just &quot;feed&quot; this little girl and took care of her medicine, then that would be great. There is nothing wrong with that, but what this little girl really needs is to be in an healthy environment, to know about the love of Christ and to accept the Gospel. Then she knows she is being loved, then when a sponsor on top of that demonstrates that same type of love by praying for her, writing her letters, showing how much he cares for this girl, then you can see the cycle of poverty in this family broken. Then when she grows up, she will make a huge impact on her family. Then she can make a difference in her community. Now, you&#039;ve really affected not just that girl, but you&#039;ve affected that whole community. I&#039;ve seen this happen so many times. Does that make sense? I can give a lot of examples of this, but I really believe that it is the Gospel in conjunction with the help to eliviate those symptoms that will ultimately break the cycle of poverty in those countries. Without that wholelistic approach you&#039;ll just be putting on &quot;bandages,&quot; and you&#039;ll have to do it in the next generation again and again, and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that would save a lot of the problems in desperate poverty. </p>
<p>Let me give an example of Bolivia, because that&#8217;s where I lived for altogether 7 months. Bolivia is the poorest country in South America. I worked there in very poor neighborhoods. A lot of the problem of the poverty there is spiritually based. It&#8217;s not physical. Yes, there is obvious physical poverty there and it should be met.  But the physical poverty issues like a lack of water, a lack of food, a lack of education, etc&#8230;. are symptoms of underlying spiritual problems. </p>
<p>Let me give an example of what happens all the time over there. A mother has to work 12-14 hours/day for around $2/day. She has a little girl that she has to leave home in her shack. This girl is there with a little beat up television and in the area there are many gangs. She never hears her mother tell her that she is loved. For all intents and purposes, she is being raised by the television, which is like American television, i.e. most of it pretty much a bunch of garbage. When she is 14 years old, she meets some boy, who tells her that he loves her. These words become very powerful and a year later, she is pregnant and the boy has run away to somewhere else. </p>
<p>Thus she gives birth to a little child and now she has to work 14 hours/day and the cycle started again. </p>
<p>Now, if you were to just &#8220;feed&#8221; this little girl and took care of her medicine, then that would be great. There is nothing wrong with that, but what this little girl really needs is to be in an healthy environment, to know about the love of Christ and to accept the Gospel. Then she knows she is being loved, then when a sponsor on top of that demonstrates that same type of love by praying for her, writing her letters, showing how much he cares for this girl, then you can see the cycle of poverty in this family broken. Then when she grows up, she will make a huge impact on her family. Then she can make a difference in her community. Now, you&#8217;ve really affected not just that girl, but you&#8217;ve affected that whole community. I&#8217;ve seen this happen so many times. Does that make sense? I can give a lot of examples of this, but I really believe that it is the Gospel in conjunction with the help to eliviate those symptoms that will ultimately break the cycle of poverty in those countries. Without that wholelistic approach you&#8217;ll just be putting on &#8220;bandages,&#8221; and you&#8217;ll have to do it in the next generation again and again, and again.</p>
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		<title>By: Cristal</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/definition-of-extreme-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-36115</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of course that&#039;s going to save the children in Africa correct?</description>
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		<title>By: Kees Boer</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/definition-of-extreme-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-28748</link>
		<dc:creator>Kees Boer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 03:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dependence on God is very rich, because He is souvereign over all. As a matter of fact, without trusting in Christ for our salvation, we are hopelessly lost, facing an horrific eternity. If you see for instance the temptations that Christ went through, all of them are temptations of Satan to get Christ to act independently of His Father. Just today, I spent the day with children in deep poverty. Many of them don&#039;t have food every night. But they are full of joy. And in many ways far richer than some children in Western countries that seem to have it all, but have no purpose and joy in their life. I&#039;ve seen very &quot;rich&quot; teenagers become drug addicts..... Material possessions can be as much of a snare of Satan as deep poverty. Ultimately it is all about Christ. Without Him and a deep dependence on Him, we are very poor, no matter how successful or wealthy we seem to be here on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dependence on God is very rich, because He is souvereign over all. As a matter of fact, without trusting in Christ for our salvation, we are hopelessly lost, facing an horrific eternity. If you see for instance the temptations that Christ went through, all of them are temptations of Satan to get Christ to act independently of His Father. Just today, I spent the day with children in deep poverty. Many of them don&#8217;t have food every night. But they are full of joy. And in many ways far richer than some children in Western countries that seem to have it all, but have no purpose and joy in their life. I&#8217;ve seen very &#8220;rich&#8221; teenagers become drug addicts&#8230;.. Material possessions can be as much of a snare of Satan as deep poverty. Ultimately it is all about Christ. Without Him and a deep dependence on Him, we are very poor, no matter how successful or wealthy we seem to be here on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kees,

I would have to say that there is nothing wealthy about dependence when there are countless others who will actively shape their own futures and that of their complacent peers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kees,</p>
<p>I would have to say that there is nothing wealthy about dependence when there are countless others who will actively shape their own futures and that of their complacent peers.</p>
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		<title>By: Hakana</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/definition-of-extreme-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-20513</link>
		<dc:creator>Hakana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 05:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who live in extreme poverty are people who cannot meet the basic needs of food, water, shelter, sanitation and healthcare. 

Too many people live in this state and too many people are ignoring the issue. Who ever gave the right for humanity to think that it is okay that we divide those poor and those rich, is a dick head. If we can&#039;t look after each other then our world will fall apart. Wait, it already is!

I am no preacher of God or any other form of religion. I just have strong beliefs in what i can do and in what humanity can do, to save what is left of Mother Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who live in extreme poverty are people who cannot meet the basic needs of food, water, shelter, sanitation and healthcare. </p>
<p>Too many people live in this state and too many people are ignoring the issue. Who ever gave the right for humanity to think that it is okay that we divide those poor and those rich, is a dick head. If we can&#8217;t look after each other then our world will fall apart. Wait, it already is!</p>
<p>I am no preacher of God or any other form of religion. I just have strong beliefs in what i can do and in what humanity can do, to save what is left of Mother Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Brig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Brig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura,  If you knew, truly knew any materially poor person, then you would know God.  God lives in the poor.  Those that are materially poor depend and love God in a way that most cannot understand.  Go and spend time with a very poor person-then you will meet and know God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura,  If you knew, truly knew any materially poor person, then you would know God.  God lives in the poor.  Those that are materially poor depend and love God in a way that most cannot understand.  Go and spend time with a very poor person-then you will meet and know God.</p>
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		<title>By: Habtamu</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/definition-of-extreme-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-17027</link>
		<dc:creator>Habtamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with not having christ.</description>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/definition-of-extreme-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-16346</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 13:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can not meet basic needs food, shelter, medicale etc.</description>
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		<title>By: Laura Randelli</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/definition-of-extreme-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-15085</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Randelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t doubt your sincerity Kees but your spouting dogma will not feed the hungry people of the world. If jesus gave a hoot for the poor in the world he could help by not inflicting his &#039;disasters&#039; upon them for a start! He does seem to get a kick out of punishing the most disadvantaged with his earthquakes, floods, wars and sundry other unpleasantness, unfairly heaped upon those least able to cope. Jesus Christ, you must be joking, when will you realise that religion is based on myth and fantasy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt your sincerity Kees but your spouting dogma will not feed the hungry people of the world. If jesus gave a hoot for the poor in the world he could help by not inflicting his &#8216;disasters&#8217; upon them for a start! He does seem to get a kick out of punishing the most disadvantaged with his earthquakes, floods, wars and sundry other unpleasantness, unfairly heaped upon those least able to cope. Jesus Christ, you must be joking, when will you realise that religion is based on myth and fantasy?</p>
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		<title>By: Kees Boer</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/definition-of-extreme-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-7348</link>
		<dc:creator>Kees Boer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jason, that&#039;s actually not so much my point. Rich people can depend on God. They have to make more of a choice to do so. 

What I&#039;m actually saying is that what we consider the &quot;poor&quot; in those countries are really the rich, because they are rich with dependence on God. 

See, in reality, material possessions here on earth are very temporal. We have an eternity in front of us. Our lives here on earth are just like an entrance into eternity. Some people have been given a nice entrance, some a not so nice entrance. What we do with our entrance has an effect on the rest of eternity. 

The most important thing is to realize that none of us deserve to enter heaven. We have all broken God&#039;s laws and if it were dependent upon our performance here on earth, we would all end up seperated from God in a place called hell. To go to heaven, we must have the righteousness of God or must be perfect. Rev. 21:27 says that even someone, who lies can not enter heaven. So, no matter what a person does, they can never enter heaven. You can sponsor 500 children, which would be a good thing to do, but it will never get you to heaven. 

God saw that situation and He sent His Son, Jesus to die on the cross to pay for our sins. He was our substitute. In other words, Jesus took all of the blame of my sins on Himself and He paid for them on the cross, when He died. Then 3 days later, He rose from the dead, proving that your and my sins have been paid for. 

Now, all He asks us to do to go to heaven, is to simply put our trust in what He did on the cross and all of our sins are forgiven. 

John 3:16 is a famous passage. It sums it up nicely: &quot;For God so loved the world (that&#039;s you and I), that He gave His only begotten Son (that&#039;s Jesus Christ), that whoever believes (That means to trust or to rely upon) should not perish (spend eternity away from God), but have eternal life. 

If you have never placed your trust in Christ, you can do that right there where you are sitting. Simply rely upon what Jesus did for you on the cross. Some people do this by saying a prayer to God, like this (though saying a prayer is not necessary) &quot;God I know I&#039;m a sinner, but I believe that Jesus came to earth and die on the cross for my sins and I want to place my trust in Jesus as the One, Who paid for my sins. Thank you for dying for me. Amen.&quot;   

If you just placed your trust in Christ, then you can know on the basis of God&#039;s Word, the Bible that you have eternal life. I John 5:13 says: &quot;These things have I written to you that believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may KNOW that you have eternal life.&quot; 

Now, here on earth we can continue this trusting relationship for other things too. And that&#039;s why many poor people are really rich. Because if they placed their trust in what Jesus did for them on the cross, they are going to heaven and their eternity is secure. I told a Compassion child not too long ago that the biggest mansion here on earth is a dump compared to what they will get when they get to heaven. (This Compassion child had placed his trust on Jesus to save him) 

Kees</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jason, that&#8217;s actually not so much my point. Rich people can depend on God. They have to make more of a choice to do so. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m actually saying is that what we consider the &#8220;poor&#8221; in those countries are really the rich, because they are rich with dependence on God. </p>
<p>See, in reality, material possessions here on earth are very temporal. We have an eternity in front of us. Our lives here on earth are just like an entrance into eternity. Some people have been given a nice entrance, some a not so nice entrance. What we do with our entrance has an effect on the rest of eternity. </p>
<p>The most important thing is to realize that none of us deserve to enter heaven. We have all broken God&#8217;s laws and if it were dependent upon our performance here on earth, we would all end up seperated from God in a place called hell. To go to heaven, we must have the righteousness of God or must be perfect. Rev. 21:27 says that even someone, who lies can not enter heaven. So, no matter what a person does, they can never enter heaven. You can sponsor 500 children, which would be a good thing to do, but it will never get you to heaven. </p>
<p>God saw that situation and He sent His Son, Jesus to die on the cross to pay for our sins. He was our substitute. In other words, Jesus took all of the blame of my sins on Himself and He paid for them on the cross, when He died. Then 3 days later, He rose from the dead, proving that your and my sins have been paid for. </p>
<p>Now, all He asks us to do to go to heaven, is to simply put our trust in what He did on the cross and all of our sins are forgiven. </p>
<p>John 3:16 is a famous passage. It sums it up nicely: &#8220;For God so loved the world (that&#8217;s you and I), that He gave His only begotten Son (that&#8217;s Jesus Christ), that whoever believes (That means to trust or to rely upon) should not perish (spend eternity away from God), but have eternal life. </p>
<p>If you have never placed your trust in Christ, you can do that right there where you are sitting. Simply rely upon what Jesus did for you on the cross. Some people do this by saying a prayer to God, like this (though saying a prayer is not necessary) &#8220;God I know I&#8217;m a sinner, but I believe that Jesus came to earth and die on the cross for my sins and I want to place my trust in Jesus as the One, Who paid for my sins. Thank you for dying for me. Amen.&#8221;   </p>
<p>If you just placed your trust in Christ, then you can know on the basis of God&#8217;s Word, the Bible that you have eternal life. I John 5:13 says: &#8220;These things have I written to you that believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may KNOW that you have eternal life.&#8221; </p>
<p>Now, here on earth we can continue this trusting relationship for other things too. And that&#8217;s why many poor people are really rich. Because if they placed their trust in what Jesus did for them on the cross, they are going to heaven and their eternity is secure. I told a Compassion child not too long ago that the biggest mansion here on earth is a dump compared to what they will get when they get to heaven. (This Compassion child had placed his trust on Jesus to save him) </p>
<p>Kees</p>
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