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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/human-becoming/comment-page-1/#comment-1617</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly Dave!  We should be doing it at home. But I also believe our children need to see us involved in corporate worship.

As I mentioned in one of my earlier comments:

&quot;Yeah, even if the teaching is more than the kids should hear, I like it when the service starts with the children, and then dismisses them after worship–for the teaching. I’ve also been to churches where the pastor brings the young kids up to the front and teaches them a little lesson before dismissing them. I love that. Wish my church did those things.&quot;

Yes...absolutely, our children need to see us worshipping at home, but they need to be &quot;included&quot; at church too.  Just my .02.  

As always, thanks for reading and for commenting!

tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly Dave!  We should be doing it at home. But I also believe our children need to see us involved in corporate worship.</p>
<p>As I mentioned in one of my earlier comments:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, even if the teaching is more than the kids should hear, I like it when the service starts with the children, and then dismisses them after worship–for the teaching. I’ve also been to churches where the pastor brings the young kids up to the front and teaches them a little lesson before dismissing them. I love that. Wish my church did those things.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;absolutely, our children need to see us worshipping at home, but they need to be &#8220;included&#8221; at church too.  Just my .02.  </p>
<p>As always, thanks for reading and for commenting!</p>
<p>tim</p>
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		<title>By: Compassion dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/human-becoming/comment-page-1/#comment-1612</link>
		<dc:creator>Compassion dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;So maybe … just maybe … we ought to start thinking about children differently. Maybe we need to start in our churches. That’s where we should be setting the example.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s my take on it.  I believe our kids need to see us with our Bibles open, on our knees in prayer, and worshipping our Lord &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;in our homes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; first and foremost.  Personally, on Sunday and during a mid-week service, I want my child in an age-appropriate learning/worshipping environment (for the same reason I wouldn&#039;t send my 2nd grader to a high school class).

Hopefully my child knows what I do in church because she sees me doing it at home the rest of the week and she will emulate the behavior.  In all honesty, if she were &#039;made&#039; to sit in church between her mother and me, she would likely not understand the message and as a result not want to go to church.  As it is now, she loves the experience of her age appropriate classes.

I know this wasn&#039;t the main-focus of your post, but I felt compelled to reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So maybe … just maybe … we ought to start thinking about children differently. Maybe we need to start in our churches. That’s where we should be setting the example.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my take on it.  I believe our kids need to see us with our Bibles open, on our knees in prayer, and worshipping our Lord <b><i>in our homes</i></b> first and foremost.  Personally, on Sunday and during a mid-week service, I want my child in an age-appropriate learning/worshipping environment (for the same reason I wouldn&#8217;t send my 2nd grader to a high school class).</p>
<p>Hopefully my child knows what I do in church because she sees me doing it at home the rest of the week and she will emulate the behavior.  In all honesty, if she were &#8216;made&#8217; to sit in church between her mother and me, she would likely not understand the message and as a result not want to go to church.  As it is now, she loves the experience of her age appropriate classes.</p>
<p>I know this wasn&#8217;t the main-focus of your post, but I felt compelled to reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/human-becoming/comment-page-1/#comment-1608</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Beth.

Yeah, even if the teaching is more than the kids should hear, I like it when the service starts with the children, and then dismisses them after worship--for the teaching.  I&#039;ve also been to churches where the pastor brings the young kids up to the front and teaches them a little lesson before dismissing them. I love that.  Wish my church did those things.

Thanks for reading and for commenting!

tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Beth.</p>
<p>Yeah, even if the teaching is more than the kids should hear, I like it when the service starts with the children, and then dismisses them after worship&#8211;for the teaching.  I&#8217;ve also been to churches where the pastor brings the young kids up to the front and teaches them a little lesson before dismissing them. I love that.  Wish my church did those things.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading and for commenting!</p>
<p>tim</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/human-becoming/comment-page-1/#comment-1607</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicki,

Sounds like your church gets it.  The only time my church allows children in the sanctuary, is when they are doing baby dedications.  
My former pastor used to make jokes all the time about children&#039;s ministry...like he&#039;d say, &quot;Don&#039;t worry, we&#039;re not going to make you work in the children&#039;s ministry...&quot; like it was some sort of punishment...or it was a terrible place to be.  
That always bothered me.  But, like I said, he&#039;s my FORMER pastor. Ha!

Thanks for reading and for writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki,</p>
<p>Sounds like your church gets it.  The only time my church allows children in the sanctuary, is when they are doing baby dedications.<br />
My former pastor used to make jokes all the time about children&#8217;s ministry&#8230;like he&#8217;d say, &#8220;Don&#8217;t worry, we&#8217;re not going to make you work in the children&#8217;s ministry&#8230;&#8221; like it was some sort of punishment&#8230;or it was a terrible place to be.<br />
That always bothered me.  But, like I said, he&#8217;s my FORMER pastor. Ha!</p>
<p>Thanks for reading and for writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Ingersoll</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/human-becoming/comment-page-1/#comment-1605</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Ingersoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an interesting post.  I&#039;ve never been in a church where children weren&#039;t allowed in the sanctuary!  I think you made great &quot;arguments&quot; for why they &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting post.  I&#8217;ve never been in a church where children weren&#8217;t allowed in the sanctuary!  I think you made great &#8220;arguments&#8221; for why they <i>should</i> be there!</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Small</title>
		<link>http://blog.compassion.com/human-becoming/comment-page-1/#comment-1604</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...my own church does have a nursery, and children&#039;s/teens&#039; services.  In both the children&#039;s and teens&#039; groups, they have a worship time; I know the children then split into their age groups for teaching.  But I also see children and a few teens in &quot;big&quot; church, and the only times their presence has been discouraged were when the sermon was going to include some things that the pastors thought children probably should not hear; e.g., when they were teaching from the Sonf of Solomom.  I also know that the children really learn to worship; a couple of times a year, kids from grades 2-5 lead the worship in &quot;big&quot; church, and you can see that many of them really are worshipping their Lord. It&#039;s pretty neat.

But your point, which Wess has also made, is valid.  A friend of long ago once told me that she had never referred to her son and daughter as &quot;kids,&quot; but always as her children.  But we agreed that, more fundamental than the words, was whether we saw our children as people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;my own church does have a nursery, and children&#8217;s/teens&#8217; services.  In both the children&#8217;s and teens&#8217; groups, they have a worship time; I know the children then split into their age groups for teaching.  But I also see children and a few teens in &#8220;big&#8221; church, and the only times their presence has been discouraged were when the sermon was going to include some things that the pastors thought children probably should not hear; e.g., when they were teaching from the Sonf of Solomom.  I also know that the children really learn to worship; a couple of times a year, kids from grades 2-5 lead the worship in &#8220;big&#8221; church, and you can see that many of them really are worshipping their Lord. It&#8217;s pretty neat.</p>
<p>But your point, which Wess has also made, is valid.  A friend of long ago once told me that she had never referred to her son and daughter as &#8220;kids,&#8221; but always as her children.  But we agreed that, more fundamental than the words, was whether we saw our children as people.</p>
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